Comments on: Employing The “Loop D Loop” In Persuasion http://blog.maxpersuasion.com/loop-d-loop/ Persuasion Strategies for Opening Doors and Winning Favor with the Affluent. Tue, 27 Jul 2010 23:24:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Kenrick E. Cleveland; Affluent Activator http://blog.maxpersuasion.com/loop-d-loop/comment-page-1/#comment-202 Kenrick E. Cleveland; Affluent Activator Wed, 05 Sep 2007 06:10:10 +0000 http://maxpersuasion.com/blog/loop-d-loop/#comment-202 [quote comment="201"]Hey Kenrick, Does the "temporal pattern loops" you mention relate to the Zigarnick (sp?) effect? - the whole "stay tuned for next week's episode to find out what happened" effect? There are very few things I have seen in persuasion that are as powerful as that and that was one of the reasons the movie "The Secret" took off so well, wouldn't you agree? BTW: love your blog! You are one of 3 or 4 blogs I actually read out of 50 or so subscriptions. Thank you![/quote] Hi Paul, Yes, it does relate to that. And it is indeed very powerful. Thanks for the kind words. Paul Speziale said on September 5, 2007

Hey Kenrick,

Does the "temporal pattern loops" you mention relate to the Zigarnick (sp?) effect? -

the whole "stay tuned for next week's episode to find out what happened" effect?

There are very few things I have seen in persuasion that are as powerful as that and that was one of the reasons the movie "The Secret" took off so well, wouldn't you agree?

BTW: love your blog! You are one of 3 or 4 blogs I actually read out of 50 or so subscriptions. Thank you!

Hi Paul,

Yes, it does relate to that. And it is indeed very powerful.

Thanks for the kind words.

]]> By: Paul Speziale http://blog.maxpersuasion.com/loop-d-loop/comment-page-1/#comment-201 Paul Speziale Wed, 05 Sep 2007 05:55:05 +0000 http://maxpersuasion.com/blog/loop-d-loop/#comment-201 Hey Kenrick, Does the "temporal pattern loops" you mention relate to the Zigarnick (sp?) effect? - the whole "stay tuned for next week's episode to find out what happened" effect? There are very few things I have seen in persuasion that are as powerful as that and that was one of the reasons the movie "The Secret" took off so well, wouldn't you agree? BTW: love your blog! You are one of 3 or 4 blogs I actually read out of 50 or so subscriptions. Thank you! Hey Kenrick,

Does the "temporal pattern loops" you mention relate to the Zigarnick (sp?) effect? -

the whole "stay tuned for next week's episode to find out what happened" effect?

There are very few things I have seen in persuasion that are as powerful as that and that was one of the reasons the movie "The Secret" took off so well, wouldn't you agree?

BTW: love your blog! You are one of 3 or 4 blogs I actually read out of 50 or so subscriptions. Thank you!

]]> By: Kenrick E. Cleveland; Affluent Activator http://blog.maxpersuasion.com/loop-d-loop/comment-page-1/#comment-200 Kenrick E. Cleveland; Affluent Activator Wed, 05 Sep 2007 01:08:34 +0000 http://maxpersuasion.com/blog/loop-d-loop/#comment-200 [quote comment="198"]Hi Kendrick, How do I overdeliver when using underdelivered open loops? I'm a sucker for open loops (data junkie) and I appreciate the impact of the "increasing response potential. " Keep them wanting more. I also feel cheated (uneasy) when I am aware that something promised me has been overlooked or omitted. How do you sort this out? Mike Ottjepka[/quote] Hi Mike, That's an interesting question. Thanks for posting it. Here are my thoughts. I think it's important to keep in mind that over delivering is done in the context of the overall process. In other words, when they think of what they want, you gave them more. The loops are used on some of the specifics to increase response potential - thus allowing you to over deliver on the entire premise of why you are talking. And, I'd be careful in how you think about loops. If you believe using them puts you in a lying frame, I would simply not use them. However, if you adopt the frame of using them to increase response potential, and don't use them on a materially important element of what you are delivering, then you have done both yourself and them a favor. I hope this helps you. Mike Ottjepka said on September 4, 2007

Hi Kendrick,

How do I overdeliver when using underdelivered open loops?

I'm a sucker for open loops (data junkie) and I appreciate the impact of the "increasing response potential. " Keep them wanting more.

I also feel cheated (uneasy) when I am aware that something promised me has been
overlooked or omitted.

How do you sort this out?

Mike Ottjepka

Hi Mike,

That's an interesting question. Thanks for posting it.

Here are my thoughts.

I think it's important to keep in mind that over delivering is done in the context of the overall process. In other words, when they think of what they want, you gave them more.

The loops are used on some of the specifics to increase response potential - thus allowing you to over deliver on the entire premise of why you are talking.

And, I'd be careful in how you think about loops. If you believe using them puts you in a lying frame, I would simply not use them. However, if you adopt the frame of using them to increase response potential, and don't use them on a materially important element of what you are delivering, then you have done both yourself and them a favor.

I hope this helps you.

]]> By: Mike Ottjepka http://blog.maxpersuasion.com/loop-d-loop/comment-page-1/#comment-198 Mike Ottjepka Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:08:55 +0000 http://maxpersuasion.com/blog/loop-d-loop/#comment-198 Hi Kendrick, How do I overdeliver when using underdelivered open loops? I'm a sucker for open loops (data junkie) and I appreciate the impact of the "increasing response potential. " Keep them wanting more. I also feel cheated (uneasy) when I am aware that something promised me has been overlooked or omitted. How do you sort this out? Mike Ottjepka Hi Kendrick,

How do I overdeliver when using underdelivered open loops?

I'm a sucker for open loops (data junkie) and I appreciate the impact of the "increasing response potential. " Keep them wanting more.

I also feel cheated (uneasy) when I am aware that something promised me has been
overlooked or omitted.

How do you sort this out?

Mike Ottjepka

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